In 1932, fred barnes began selling bullets made in his bayfield, colorado basement workshop. Heres some online load data that i have used and found very useful. There were no malfunctions of any kind feeding, ejecting, etc. Our load data is only for use in the new breed of strong action rifles such as those listed below. This data is intended for use only in modern, marlin 1895 rifles in good condition. I have shot the 4570 leverevolution ammo, and yes, the case is slightly shorter than the standard 4570 case.
Powder measuring technique push the measure through the powder only once, then give the measure a slight shake sideways to level it off. The reason i said that is because there is a lot of really bad load data for re7 and the 4570. Do not use these data in any of the firearms listed in the trapdoor section. That will surely get you started and theres plenty more information from other. Jessica brooksstevens hunts cape buffalo in mozambique. Howdy, ive been trying different powders in my 4570 marlin 1895 and was wondering if anyone had some good loads for imr 4198. Id like to put together some light loads, but all my books only show trail boss, which is impossible for me to find right now. Under no circumstances should this data be used in original trapdoor springfields, modern trapdoor replicas, original sharps model 1874 rifles, any rolling block actions, or other original old 45 70 rifles. Extract, transform, and load data 4045% design and implement an extract, transform, and load etl control flow by using a sql server. Even though i now had loads for 45 70 using these 405 gr cast bullets, i wondered what hornady 325 gr leverevolution ammunition would chronograph. Those were my thoughts one hundred rounds into the evaluation. Hodgdon also features cowboy shotshell loads with triple.
Right click on the image of the load data and use save as. Do not use these data in either of the prior two sections of 4570 data trapdoor and lever actions. Ive been thinking about putting together some 350gr and 420gr or 450gr loads with this powder and not really sure where to start. Armys springfield armory for use in the springfield model 1873, which is known to collectors as the trapdoor springfield. All i can say about this is from my book 40 years with the 45 70 so this isnt my statement. All loads use federal brass, winchester small rifle primers. I did not experience this with standard 45 70 cases. Team old pharts, team marlin express, team 3030, team 4570, team 60, team. Welcome to the predator masters forums be sure to visit the main predator master website at.
Occasionally, we will temporarily publish load data on this page when a bullet becomes available and is not yet listed in the latest edition of the handbook. You might try this lasercast load data, i think you have to use the bottom table for your reproduction sharps. They have a number of pages from various companies in regards to loading data for the 4570 in the contender. If you intend to handload for your 4570, use only data presented in a modern. Unique is listed for the 45 70 in manuals back to the first cast bullet manual in 1958, at least.
Free web app to quickly and easily combine multiple files into one pdf online. You must agree to the terms below before continuing. It would not be fair to any involved to develop a flinch or milk the trigger at this point. Reloading for 4570500 gr the firearms forum the buying. Need some reloading data for 4570 alaska outdoors forums. I dont reload that caliber but if you look at the bottom of the page at the similar threads youll see one that is titled.
As jimkim shared, it is not much, but it is enough that if you do not resize the case, and try to load a regular bullet into the hornady case, the bullet will fall in. I believe it was around 2200 fps from the data i used didnt run it over a chronograph. Well he is correct i have been shooting this plinker load for around 5 years. I am planning to use this round for deer size critters and hogs in south arkansas and texas. Aug, 2016 i use very little crimp on mine, the reason being its a single shot rifle like yours its a 45 70. Looking at various sites, it seems the heavier the better in the marlin. Over the next 40 years, the company gained a solid reputation by offering premium bullets to hunters who rolled their own. These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start. Smalley and mcpherson designed monolithic brass 362grain transsonic bullet and load. Refer to the current speer reloading manual for handloading instructions. I have shot the 45 70 leverevolution ammo, and yes, the case is slightly shorter than the standard 45 70 case.
I recently acquired an 1895 and want to start loading for it. All i can say about this is from my book 40 years with the 4570 so this isnt my statement. Those cases are big, and i really dont like low case fill loads. I noticed that the mild load of 36 grs varget was doing a good job of filling up the 5070 case. I recently purchased some of the new ballistic silver tip 300 grain bullets for my 45 70. This can occur when trying to select a pdf or an ai file as a data source, or. My loads are a bit milder being high trapdoor, level 1 to low level 2 loads. The best range load for this powder, bullet and rifle seems to be around the 45 gr of imr 3031 mark. Be thoroughly familiar with those instructions before using these loads. Unique has proven accurate with all bullets ive tried, from 300 to 500 grains. Do not use these data in either of the prior two sections of 45 70 data trapdoor and lever actions.
Again, this is 80 gr lighter bullet than the ones we were testing. I dont think i was using as much though, i want to say 48 grs powder and a lee cast 340 gr maybe. Imo you will not be able to produce loads that will work well in both rifles using the same load data. By clicking the i agree button, i understandaccept and will agree to abide by the precautions and warnings outlined below.
Most accurate load tested compressed load because nosler, inc. Hornady manufacturing company develops and publishes reloading data for the handbook of cartridge reloading. Not sure if the powder formulation changed, or if people wised up because somebody got their loads tested. I just moved and all my stuff is stacked in the garage or i would offer to check my data. Howdy, ive been trying different powders in my 45 70 marlin 1895 and was wondering if anyone had some good loads for imr 4198. A pure ruby library to merge pdf files, number pages and maybe more. I knew i was firing powerful, highly developed and carefully cons. Imr3031 is the old standby for smokeless loads in the. This is what im talking about, all data is under the 4570 levergun sections. Even though i now had loads for 4570 using these 405 gr cast bullets, i wondered what hornady 325 gr leverevolution ammunition would chronograph. Most of the game i have killed with that barrel has been with a 300 grain jacketed hollow point bullet.
A few of the 4570 loads and bullets from my archive, leftto right. Load to access graph by powder type to compare 450 marlin and 4570 350gr loads. Improper handloading practices can result in serious personal injury andor property damage. Just enough crimp to hold the head in placei would crimp if the rounds were being used in a tubular feed as in an underlever where the rounds come into contact with each other length wise.
This bp equivalent load, with a cast 405 gr bullet, shoots very well in my 4570 browning 86 and has taken two large moose for me. I recently purchased some of the new ballistic silver tip 300 grain bullets for my 4570. When reading pdf forms, some form data might be lost. But then that is my preferred powder for the 45 70. Thats interesting, i have the lastest lyman manual and there isnt any data listed. These data are intended for the 1895 lever action marlin only. Working with the data merge feature of adobe indesign is something i do often. Varg is not very good for the 45 70 as the starting load for the 300 hp is 60. So, i loaded up 20 5070 cases with 40 grs of varget under the lyman 515141 and went to the. Make sure you choose your load from the book sections labeled for trapdoor springfields. I looked in the manual and got the load data for the lever action rifles.
I only have the 250 grain load that i used at hand. I know some guys that use it, but i dont like 4227 in the 45 70. I have always used that load data for my gun and it worked well. I flexed my fingers and began another firing string. Looking at a local supplier, rogers better bullets. I know some guys that use it, but i dont like 4227 in the 4570. On line free load data and references marlin owners. Anyone who has worked with the 4570 government with loads using. Not so much for hunting, more for target work at first, till i find a load that is accurate out to 100yds. Mauser m98 bolt actions properly converted to fire 45 70 ammunition. Id like to keep the velocitys in the 1200fps with the. One of my 45 70 recipe is with 3031, its proven quite accurate. I know all about the 3 different sets of 4570 load data and i was looking at both the trapdoor and levergun data but like i originally said, even that data was in a big conflict.
On line load data, cast alloy, and other references. The reason i said that is because there is a lot of really bad load data for re7 and the 45 70. Buyers and users assume all risk, responsibility and liability whatsoever for any and all injuries including death, losses or damages to persons or property including consequential damages, arising from the use of any product or data, whether or not occasioned by sellers negligence or based on strict liability or principles of indemnity or. One of my 4570 recipe is with 3031, its proven quite accurate. While i realize that the more popular powders are the 4198s, reloder 7 and h322 i dont have any of those on hand at the moment and there arent any gunshops in the area. The new cartridge was a replacement for the stopgap. Do not shake it down or add more than is recommended. I did not experience this with standard 4570 cases. I took that data and loaded the 300 gr sierra and 54 grains of h4198. Unique is not listed in the lyman 48th, i dont know why.
Ive got the lyman 457192a of about 320gr and a heavier one or two more. Got lots of varget and both hornaday 300 gr jrn and sierra 350 hps. Barnes ttsx bt 80 nosler ballistic tip, varmint 85 speer sp 87. I can find data where folks are putting 49gr behind a 405gr jsp and that yields a pressure close to 60kpsi.
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